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		<title>Elie: /* Case examples and their alternatives */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Case examples and their alternatives&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 11:20, 14 March 2025&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{talk|Should there also be an &amp;quot;actions to take&amp;quot; section below? Nah, probably no need for it. Each ''case example'' can have its own action campaign link.}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{talk|Should there also be an &amp;quot;actions to take&amp;quot; section below? Nah, probably no need for it. Each ''case example'' can have its own action campaign link.}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{talk|For some of these, the alternative could be: &amp;quot;None. The harm to animals outweighs any scientific benefits here.&amp;quot;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{talk|For some of these, the alternative could be: &amp;quot;None. The harm to animals outweighs any scientific benefits here.&amp;quot;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{talk|A little nuance here: Let's say, for the sake of argument, that some kinds of animal testing are a &quot;necessary evil&quot;. Even so, we should avoid excessive redundancy. For example: When all the ingredients in a product have already been tested on animals decades ago, is it really necessary to test the product itself? And with each tiny change to the product, more testing&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;??&lt;/del&gt;? In general, I would say no - and I think the status quo leans towards too much of this kind of redundant testing. Change is needed - we need very specific campaigns. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Not sure &lt;/del&gt;how &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I should &lt;/del&gt;present this concept.}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{talk|A little nuance here: Let's say, for the sake of argument, that some kinds of animal testing are a &quot;necessary evil&quot;. Even so, we should avoid excessive redundancy. For example: When all the ingredients in a product have already been tested on animals decades ago, is it really necessary to test the product itself &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the same way&lt;/ins&gt;? And with each tiny change to the product, more testing &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;on more animals&lt;/ins&gt;? In general, I would say no - and I think the status quo leans towards too much of this kind of redundant &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;animal &lt;/ins&gt;testing. Change is needed - we need very specific campaigns. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;TODO: Let's figure out &lt;/ins&gt;how &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to &lt;/ins&gt;present this concept.}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;'''Animal testing''' comes in many forms, some of which are extremely cruel. There needs to be alternatives. ==Case examples and their alternatives== {{empty}} {{talk|Should there also be an &quot;actions to take&quot; section below? Nah, probably no need for it. Each ''case example'' can have its own action campaign link.}} {{talk|For some of these, the alternative could be: &quot;None. The harm to animals outweighs any scientific benefits here.&quot;}} {{talk|A little nuance here: Let's s...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2025-03-14T15:17:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Animal testing&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; comes in many forms, some of which are extremely cruel. There needs to be alternatives. ==Case examples and their alternatives== {{empty}} {{talk|Should there also be an &amp;quot;actions to take&amp;quot; section below? Nah, probably no need for it. Each &amp;#039;&amp;#039;case example&amp;#039;&amp;#039; can have its own action campaign link.}} {{talk|For some of these, the alternative could be: &amp;quot;None. The harm to animals outweighs any scientific benefits here.&amp;quot;}} {{talk|A little nuance here: Let&amp;#039;s s...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Animal testing''' comes in many forms, some of which are extremely cruel. There needs to be alternatives.&lt;br /&gt;
==Case examples and their alternatives==&lt;br /&gt;
{{empty}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{talk|Should there also be an &amp;quot;actions to take&amp;quot; section below? Nah, probably no need for it. Each ''case example'' can have its own action campaign link.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{talk|For some of these, the alternative could be: &amp;quot;None. The harm to animals outweighs any scientific benefits here.&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{talk|A little nuance here: Let's say, for the sake of argument, that some kinds of animal testing are a &amp;quot;necessary evil&amp;quot;. Even so, we should avoid excessive redundancy. For example: When all the ingredients in a product have already been tested on animals decades ago, is it really necessary to test the product itself? And with each tiny change to the product, more testing??? In general, I would say no - and I think the status quo leans towards too much of this kind of redundant testing. Change is needed - we need very specific campaigns. Not sure how I should present this concept.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==FAQ==&lt;br /&gt;
====&amp;quot;Why isn't this page called 'abolish ALL animal testing'?&amp;quot;====&lt;br /&gt;
The term &amp;quot;animal testing&amp;quot; is an extremely broad category, and may include some completely harmless things such as:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[?|Fun puzzles for wild chimpanzees, no captivity involved]] {{talk|TODO: find that documentary again}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[?|Tiny cars for rats]] (which btw helps us understand how sentient rodents can be)&lt;br /&gt;
So we need to be specific about what should be abolished.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Abolish factory farming]] - which affects far more animals overall&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elie</name></author>
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