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		<title>Elie: Elie moved page Concentrator photovoltaics to Archive:000/Concentrator photovoltaics without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elie moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Concentrator_photovoltaics&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Concentrator photovoltaics (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Concentrator photovoltaics&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Archive:000/Concentrator_photovoltaics&quot; title=&quot;Archive:000/Concentrator photovoltaics&quot;&gt;Archive:000/Concentrator photovoltaics&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:29, 26 October 2024&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Elie: /* Adapting to sun angle */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Adapting to sun angle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:26, 16 May 2023&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Adapting to sun angle==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Adapting to sun angle==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As the sun angle changes throughout the day, the lens focuses the sunlight onto a different point. There needs to be some sort of active motor system to correct for this, to keep the photovoltaic component in the focal point. Who knows the environmental footprint of such a system? &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{qn}} &lt;/del&gt;It might (or might not) outweigh all the benefits of the solar power. {{rn}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As the sun angle changes throughout the day, the lens focuses the sunlight onto a different point. There needs to be some sort of active motor system to correct for this, to keep the photovoltaic component in the focal point. Who knows the environmental footprint of such a system? It might (or might not) outweigh all the benefits of the solar power. {{rn&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;}} {{qn&lt;/ins&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;Could this be a scalable solution for solar power? * &lt;small&gt;Verdict ''so far'': Probably not.&lt;/small&gt;   '''Concentrator photovoltaics''' are based on the following idea: Instead of making a full photovoltaic solar panel, make a much smaller one, make it heat-resistant, and give it a huge lens to focus more sun on it.  {{minor|Note: This page mostly about designs where the sunlight is highly concentrated - let's say, 8x or more. Weaker magnifications aren't that h...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2023-05-16T16:52:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Could this be a scalable solution for &lt;a href=&quot;/Solar&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Solar&quot;&gt;solar&lt;/a&gt; power? * &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Verdict &amp;#039;&amp;#039;so far&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Probably not.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;   &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Concentrator photovoltaics&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are based on the following idea: Instead of making a full photovoltaic &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Solar_panel&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Solar panel (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;solar panel&lt;/a&gt;, make a much smaller one, make it heat-resistant, and give it a huge lens to focus more sun on it.  {{minor|Note: This page mostly about designs where the sunlight is highly concentrated - let&amp;#039;s say, 8x or more. Weaker magnifications aren&amp;#039;t that h...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could this be a scalable solution for [[solar]] power?&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Verdict ''so far'': Probably not.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Concentrator photovoltaics''' are based on the following idea: Instead of making a full photovoltaic [[solar panel]], make a much smaller one, make it heat-resistant, and give it a huge lens to focus more sun on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{minor|Note: This page mostly about designs where the sunlight is highly concentrated - let's say, 8x or more. Weaker magnifications aren't that helpful in overcoming the challenges of conventional [[photovoltaics]] anyway.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{considerations}} __NOTOC__&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cloudy days==&lt;br /&gt;
{{sum|Problem}}&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike conventional [[photovoltaics]], concentrator photovoltaics don't work on overcast days. There may be lots of diffuse light in the sky, but the lens can't focus it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Extra [[energy storage]] could help somewhat, but only in places where there are just a few overcast days in a row. It won't help in places where there's little direct sunlight for weeks or months at a time.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adapting to sun angle==&lt;br /&gt;
{{sum|Likely problem}}&lt;br /&gt;
As the sun angle changes throughout the day, the lens focuses the sunlight onto a different point. There needs to be some sort of active motor system to correct for this, to keep the photovoltaic component in the focal point. Who knows the environmental footprint of such a system? {{qn}} It might (or might not) outweigh all the benefits of the solar power. {{rn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Scarce minerals==&lt;br /&gt;
{{sum|Maybe reasonable}}&lt;br /&gt;
The rare mineral content is proportionally less [[solar panel minerals|than conventional solar panels]], because the photovoltaic unit is much smaller. But it still might not be low enough. {{rn}} {{qn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Energy in production==&lt;br /&gt;
{{sum|Unknown}}&lt;br /&gt;
[//wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens Fresnel lenses] are lightweight and cheap. Think of the sort of flexible plastic magnifying glass you can buy at a dollar store (thin and the size of a piece of paper). Concentrator photovoltaic panels use large arrays of these; each with a small photovoltaic unit behind it.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, if the &amp;quot;adapting to sun angle&amp;quot; problem can't be ''also'' solved cheaply, then the whole system would likely take a lot of [[energy]] to make. Thus, the [[EROI]] is still unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Energy sources]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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