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Elie: Created page with "We have to reconcile two contrasting pieces of advice that people often say: # Always be willing to fight. Don't appease people or they will walk all over you. # Avoid the fight. It's not worth getting injured over small things, even if you win. People who ''always'' live by Advice 1 will get in needless fights.
People who ''always'' live by Advice 2 will get taken advantage of. Clearly a balance should be found. I propose another way of looking at it: * Advice 1..."

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Created page with "We have to reconcile two contrasting pieces of advice that people often say: # Always be willing to fight. Don't appease people or they will walk all over you. # Avoid the fight. It's not worth getting injured over small things, even if you win. People who ''always'' live by Advice 1 will get in needless fights.<br /> People who ''always'' live by Advice 2 will get taken advantage of. Clearly a balance should be found. I propose another way of looking at it: * Advice 1..."

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We have to reconcile two contrasting pieces of advice that people often say:
# Always be willing to fight. Don't appease people or they will walk all over you.
# Avoid the fight. It's not worth getting injured over small things, even if you win.
People who ''always'' live by Advice 1 will get in needless fights.<br />
People who ''always'' live by Advice 2 will get taken advantage of.

Clearly a balance should be found. I propose another way of looking at it:
* Advice 1 is for when you're dealing with a ''crocodile''.
* Advice 2 is for when you're dealing with a ''bear''.

Let's unpack what that means...

Both crocodiles and bears are extremely aggressive. Both can kill you - but for very different reasons, in general:
* The bear sees you as a threat to its territory. It might be paranoid that you're trying to eat its children, etc.
* The crocodile just wants to eat you. There is no negotiating.

This is an analogy for types of people (enemies) you might deal with:

(chronically following Advice 1 would make ''you'' the bear, btw)

==TODO==
Before i finish writing this page, gotta figure out how to address a few nuances:
* mixed enemies who sometimes act crocodile-like and sometimes bear-like: how common are they? is it a continuum?
* what about crocodiles who masquerade as bears, in order to try and have more legitimacy?
* specific examples: hitler, putin, isis, ...
* wars are most often between two bears, each thinking the other is a crocodile?
* bar fights are often between two bears?
* what about domestic abuse cases, how would they be understood by this model?
* what about for defenseless people, any advice or there just isnt?
* so who are we giving advice to? individuals and nation-states, teach them how not to be a bear? negotiate better? what's the solution really?

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