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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;Assuming that people are willing to accept extreme social changes, here's how we could generate enough energy with renewables: * Develop cheap solar panels that don't depend on scarce minerals. Install them on almost all rooftops. This would provide the majority of energy. * Add wind turbines to farmland or barren land, wherever it's windy enough. Use the wind power to generate hydrogen gas. * Most semi trucks c...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Assuming that people are willing to accept extreme social changes, here&amp;#039;s how we could generate enough &lt;a href=&quot;/Energy&quot; title=&quot;Energy&quot;&gt;energy&lt;/a&gt; with renewables: * Develop cheap &lt;a href=&quot;/Solar_panels&quot; title=&quot;Solar panels&quot;&gt;solar panels&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Solar/challenge_1&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Solar/challenge 1 (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;don&amp;#039;t depend on scarce minerals&lt;/a&gt;. Install them on almost all &lt;a href=&quot;/Rooftop_solar&quot; title=&quot;Rooftop solar&quot;&gt;rooftops&lt;/a&gt;. This would provide the majority of energy. * Add &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Wind&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Wind (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;wind&lt;/a&gt; turbines to farmland or barren land, wherever it&amp;#039;s windy enough. Use the wind power to generate &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Hydrogen_gas&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Hydrogen gas (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;hydrogen gas&lt;/a&gt;. * Most &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Semi_trucks&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Semi trucks (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;semi trucks&lt;/a&gt; c...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Assuming that people are willing to accept extreme social changes, here's how we could generate enough [[energy]] with renewables:&lt;br /&gt;
* Develop cheap [[solar panels]] that [[solar/challenge 1|don't depend on scarce minerals]]. Install them on almost all [[rooftop solar|rooftops]]. This would provide the majority of energy.&lt;br /&gt;
* Add [[wind]] turbines to farmland or barren land, wherever it's windy enough. Use the wind power to generate [[hydrogen gas]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Most [[semi trucks]] could run on [[hydrogen combustion]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Most [[electric cars]] should be cheap, short-range vehicles that use [[sodium-ion batteries]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Develop [[public transit]] and [[walkability]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Use sodium-ion or [[iron-redox flow batteries]] as [[energy storage]] for solar electricity on the power grid.&lt;br /&gt;
* Incentivize people to charge their vehicles mostly during the day.&lt;br /&gt;
* Incentivize factories to run only during the day (and maybe even pause operation during rainy days).&lt;br /&gt;
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With this approach, 8 billion people could live a decent quality of life without exceeding the earth's resources ([[minerals]] or [[land]]). The technological changes needed are well within reach.{{npn}} The economic &amp;amp; cultural changes are viable as long as people are willing to accept them.{{npn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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If [[thorium]] [[breeder reactors]] become viable,&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[ACTION PLAN needed?]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; then it all becomes easier. Most of the above challenges fade away - except for electric vehicles, which would be just as important as ever.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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