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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elie moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Energy/solutions&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Energy/solutions (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Energy/solutions&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Archive:000/Energy/solutions&quot; title=&quot;Archive:000/Energy/solutions&quot;&gt;Archive:000/Energy/solutions&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;These are some possible solutions to the energy crisis - everything ranging from tangible to pie-in-the-sky. {|class=&quot;wikitable&quot; |#Consuming less |Viable but requires both personal and systemic changes  |- |#Renewables + energy storage |Requires innovations |- |Nuclear fission breeder reactors |Requires innovations |- |Nuclear fusion |Requires massive &amp; unlikely{{p|unlikely in the near future}} innovations |- |Fossil fuels with direct air carbon...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;These are some possible solutions to the &lt;a href=&quot;/Energy&quot; title=&quot;Energy&quot;&gt;energy&lt;/a&gt; crisis - everything ranging from tangible to pie-in-the-sky. {|class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; |&lt;a href=&quot;#Consuming_less&quot;&gt;#Consuming less&lt;/a&gt; |Viable but requires both personal and systemic changes  |- |&lt;a href=&quot;#Renewables_+_energy_storage&quot;&gt;#Renewables + energy storage&lt;/a&gt; |Requires innovations |- |Nuclear fission &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Breeder_reactors&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Breeder reactors (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;breeder reactors&lt;/a&gt; |Requires innovations |- |&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Nuclear_fusion&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Nuclear fusion (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Nuclear fusion&lt;/a&gt; |Requires massive &amp;amp; unlikely{{p|unlikely in the near future}} innovations |- |&lt;a href=&quot;/Fossil_fuels&quot; title=&quot;Fossil fuels&quot;&gt;Fossil fuels&lt;/a&gt; with direct air carbon...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;These are some possible solutions to the [[energy]] crisis - everything ranging from tangible to pie-in-the-sky.&lt;br /&gt;
{|class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[#Consuming less]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Viable but requires both personal and systemic changes &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[#Renewables + energy storage]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Requires innovations&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Nuclear fission [[breeder reactors]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Requires innovations&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Nuclear fusion]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Requires massive &amp;amp; unlikely{{p|unlikely in the near future}} innovations&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Fossil fuels]] with [[direct air carbon capture]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Unlikely to be viable&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[methane cracking|Fossil fuels using only the hydrogen component]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Unlikely to be viable{{en}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Consuming less==&lt;br /&gt;
Probably at least 2/3 of global energy usage could be avoided, ''without'' losing much quality of life. Note that the biggest changes would need to happen in &amp;quot;first world&amp;quot; countries, especially for people middle-class and richer. No one should make the global poor consume less.&lt;br /&gt;
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Energy in ''manufacturing'' could be reduced by&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; ending [[planned obsolescence]],&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; having [[right to repair]], and&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(personal change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; promoting [[frugalism]].&lt;br /&gt;
* We can still have nice things, we just wouldn't ''replace'' them as often.&lt;br /&gt;
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Energy in ''transportation'' could be reduced by&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[public transit]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[walkability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; more people working from home&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(personal change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[carpooling]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(personal change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; choosing to walk, bike, or not travel as much&lt;br /&gt;
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Energy in ''construction'' could be reduced by&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; shopping malls not redoing their interiors as often&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(personal change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; only doing ''essential'' home renovations, not cosmetic ones{{en}} {{x|Here's one an example of bad: Landlords redoing floors/countertops/walls every time a tenant moves out (in hopes to find a higher-class tenant who will pay more), even though most tenants [couldn't care less / just want a place that's liveable]. It's especially bad when already-poor tenants get billed for &amp;quot;damages&amp;quot; that no one would really mind except the landlord.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Energy in ''agriculture'' could be reduced by&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(systemic change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; grocery stores avoiding food waste&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(personal change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; people avoiding food waste, and being willing to eat day-old food from bakeries etc&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(personal change)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; choosing [[plant-based]] food often&lt;br /&gt;
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The more difficult domains are home [[heating]] and [[cooling]]. Other home-energy-usage (misc electricity) is not ''that'' significant as far as global energy usage is concerned.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's tempting to get ideological about what matters more: personal vs systemic changes{{x|The folks who say &amp;quot;personal changes don't matter&amp;quot; are typically only looking at low-impact personal changes. The ones listed above are ''high-impact''.}}. But in all likelihood, the potential impact is about 50/50 from each.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most energy currently comes from fossil fuels, because other energy sources have a hard time scaling up. The less energy we need, the easier it is to mitigate [[climate change]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Renewables + energy storage==&lt;br /&gt;
Most energy would come from [[rooftop solar]]. In very dense cities, rooftops wouldn't be enough, so there would also need to be some [[solar farms]] and/or [[wind]] power in the surrounding area. [[Hydro]] and [[geothermal]] electricity would also be used wherever geographically viable{{x|which is not the majority of the world, sadly}}. [[Nuclear]] consumption wouldn't increase much{{x|, because uranium-235 is too scarce. See ''other'' solutions that involve [[breeder reactors]] to make use of the more abundant uranium-238 and thorium-232}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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This requires some key innovations:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[solar/challenge 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[energy storage]] that doesn't involve too many rare metals or rare geography &amp;lt;!-- TALK: maybe i should make a 'challenge' page on this too? --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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