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Elie moved page Energy supply solutions summary to Archive:000/Energy supply solutions summary without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor

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Elie at 08:12, 16 November 2023

2023-11-16T08:12:40Z

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	{{minor\|Other renewables ([[geothermal electricity]], [[hydroelectricity]] including [[tidal]], and [[biomass waste]]) are limited to only a small percent of the world's energy.}}		{{minor\|Other renewables ([[geothermal electricity]], [[hydroelectricity]] including [[tidal]], and [[biomass waste]]) are limited to only a small percent of the world's energy.}}

	There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]], because fuel cells are too high in platinum-group metals}}.		There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]]-type, because [[fuel cell vehicles\|fuel cells]] are too high in platinum-group metals}}.

	In any case, it all becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.		In any case, it all becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.

Elie at 08:02, 16 November 2023

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	* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Mostly to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which would be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.		* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Mostly to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which would be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.
	* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.		* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.
			{{minor\|Other renewables ([[geothermal electricity]], [[hydroelectricity]] including [[tidal]], and [[biomass waste]]) are limited to only a small percent of the world's energy.}}

	There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]], because fuel cells are too high in platinum-group metals}}.		There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]], because fuel cells are too high in platinum-group metals}}.

Elie: Made it more complicated but necessarily so.

2023-11-16T07:48:11Z

Made it more complicated but necessarily so.

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	Things that actually stand a chance to replace all [[fossil fuel]] energy in the ''near'' future:		Things that actually stand a chance to replace all [[fossil fuel]] [[energy]] in the ''near'' future:
	* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every ~~[[rooftop solar\|~~rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.		* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass-produce enough to cover every rooftop. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar. For [[homes]]/buildings{{x\|connected together via the power grid for some load balancing}}, [[rooftop solar]] would provide enough "general-purpose" electricity, but not always enough for [[heating]].
	* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Mostly to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which ~~can~~ be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.		* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Mostly to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which would be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.
	* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.		* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.
			There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]], because fuel cells are too high in platinum-group metals}}.

	In any case, it becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.		In any case, it all becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.

	==See also==		==See also==
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	* [[Housing]]		* [[Housing]]
	* [[Climate change]]		* [[Climate change]]
			* [[Energy]]

Elie: Had to change "only" to "mostly", sacrificing elegance for the sake of correctness

2023-11-16T06:51:21Z

Had to change "only" to "mostly", sacrificing elegance for the sake of correctness

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	Things that actually stand a chance to replace all [[fossil fuel]] energy in the ''near'' future:		Things that actually stand a chance to replace all [[fossil fuel]] energy in the ''near'' future:
	* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.		* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.
	* '''[[Wind power]]:''' ~~Only~~ to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.		* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Mostly to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.
	* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.		* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.

Elie at 02:26, 7 November 2023

2023-11-07T02:26:16Z

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	Things that actually stand a chance to replace [[fossil ~~fuels~~]] in the ''near'' future:		Things that actually stand a chance to replace all [[fossil fuel]] energy in the ''near'' future:
	* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.		* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.
	* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.		* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.

Elie at 21:11, 3 November 2023

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	* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.		* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.
	* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.		* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.
	* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. Fusion is a pipe dream, uranium-235 is too scarce, and uranium-238 ~~has~~ too many weapons proliferation concerns.		* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. [[nuclear fusion\|Fusion]] is a pipe dream{{x\|although it's ultimately the best choice in the ''distant'' future}}, [[conventional nuclear power\|uranium-235]] is too scarce, and [[uranium-238]] reactors have too many weapons proliferation concerns.

	In any case, it becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.		In any case, it becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.

Elie at 21:01, 3 November 2023

2023-11-03T21:01:55Z

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	Things that actually stand a chance to replace [[fossil fuels]] in the ''near'' future:		Things that actually stand a chance to replace [[fossil fuels]] in the ''near'' future:
	* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply ~~with~~ [[solar/challenge 1\|~~no rare~~ minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.		* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply [[solar/challenge 1\|without scarce minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar\|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.
	* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.		* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.
	* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. Fusion is a pipe dream, uranium-235 is too scarce, and uranium-238 has too many weapons proliferation concerns.		* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. Fusion is a pipe dream, uranium-235 is too scarce, and uranium-238 has too many weapons proliferation concerns.

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Things that actually stand a chance to replace [[fossil fuels]] in the ''near'' future:
* '''[[Solar panels]]:''' Only if they can be made cheaply with [[solar/challenge 1|no rare minerals]] (it's ok if the efficiency is lower). Need to mass produce enough to cover every [[rooftop solar|rooftop]]. Need [[energy storage]]: [[sodium-ion batteries]] or similar.
* '''[[Wind power]]:''' Only to generate [[hydrogen gas]] (which can be used as fuel instead of [[natural gas]]). Otherwise too intermittent, too far away for power lines.
* '''[[Nuclear]]:''' Only if it's [[thorium]]. Fusion is a pipe dream, uranium-235 is too scarce, and uranium-238 has too many weapons proliferation concerns.

In any case, it becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit|drive]] [[walkability|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.

==See also==
* [[Food]]
* [[Housing]]
* [[Climate change]]

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	{{minor\|Other renewables ([[geothermal electricity]], [[hydroelectricity]] including [[tidal]], and [[biomass waste]]) are limited to only a small percent of the world's energy.}}		{{minor\|Other renewables ([[geothermal electricity]], [[hydroelectricity]] including [[tidal]], and [[biomass waste]]) are limited to only a small percent of the world's energy.}}

	There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]], because fuel cells are too high in platinum-group metals}}.		There would be battery [[electric vehicles]]{{x\|mostly sodium-ion, because [[lithium-ion]] battery minerals are too scarce}} and hydrogen-based vehicles{{x\|mostly [[hydrogen combustion vehicles\|combustion]]-type, because [[fuel cell vehicles\|fuel cells]] are too high in platinum-group metals}}.

	In any case, it all becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.		In any case, it all becomes a lot easier if we '''[[public transit\|drive]] [[walkability\|less]]''' (some careers are an exception obviously) and '''[[frugalism\|buy less]]''' new stuff. Those factors alone account for 2/3 of the world's [[energy]] consumption.