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		<title>Elie: Elie moved page Primitivism to Archive:000/Primitivism without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elie moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Primitivism&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Primitivism (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Primitivism&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Archive:000/Primitivism&quot; title=&quot;Archive:000/Primitivism&quot;&gt;Archive:000/Primitivism&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:30, 26 October 2024&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Elie at 23:48, 24 May 2022</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:48, 24 May 2022&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The idea that we can return to hunter-gatherer societies (or abandon technology in general), is probably '''not''' sustainable, not green, and not viable for our global population of nearly 8 billion people. Here's some evidence why:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The idea that we can return to hunter-gatherer societies (or abandon technology in general), is probably '''not''' sustainable, not green, and not viable for our global population of nearly 8 billion people. Here's some evidence why:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/del&gt;-gatherer societies &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;existed when &lt;/del&gt;the global population was less than 1/10th of what it is today.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Back when hunter&lt;/ins&gt;-gatherer societies &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;were the main mode of living, &lt;/ins&gt;the global population was less than 1/10th of what it is today.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Today, hunting &amp;amp; fishing restrictions are needed to prevent animal extinctions from over-hunting and over-fishing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Today, hunting &amp;amp; fishing restrictions are needed to prevent animal extinctions from over-hunting and over-fishing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Indiginous people {{x|or more specifically, people who get the majority of their food from hunting, foraging and fishing; most of whom are indiginous}} are less than 5% of the global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Indiginous people {{x|or more specifically, people who get the majority of their food from hunting, foraging and fishing; most of whom are indiginous}} are less than 5% of the global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of this points to one likely truth: It takes too much land to feed a person via hunting, fishing and/or foraging. Agriculture {{x|which doesn't have to be monoculture}} is the only way to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;feed &lt;/del&gt;{{&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;x&lt;/del&gt;|generate enough food for}} today's global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of this points to one likely truth: It takes too much land to feed a person via hunting, fishing and/or foraging. Agriculture {{x|which doesn't have to be monoculture&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, by the way&lt;/ins&gt;}} is the only way to {{&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;p2|feed&lt;/ins&gt;|generate enough food for}} today's global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Got evidence to the contrary? Join the {{talk}}.''&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;''Got evidence to the contrary? Join the {{talk}}.''&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Elie at 23:37, 24 May 2022</title>
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		<updated>2022-05-24T23:37:26Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Today, hunting &amp;amp; fishing restrictions are needed to prevent animal extinctions from over-hunting and over-fishing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Today, hunting &amp;amp; fishing restrictions are needed to prevent animal extinctions from over-hunting and over-fishing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Indiginous people {{x|or more specifically, people who get &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;most &lt;/del&gt;of their food from hunting, foraging and fishing}} are less than 5% of the global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Indiginous people {{x|or more specifically, people who get &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the majority &lt;/ins&gt;of their food from hunting, foraging and fishing&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;; most of whom are indiginous&lt;/ins&gt;}} are less than 5% of the global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of this points to one likely truth: It takes too much land to feed a person via hunting, fishing and/or foraging. Agriculture {{x|which doesn't have to be monoculture}} is the only way to feed {{x|generate enough food for}} today's global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of this points to one likely truth: It takes too much land to feed a person via hunting, fishing and/or foraging. Agriculture {{x|which doesn't have to be monoculture}} is the only way to feed {{x|generate enough food for}} today's global population.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;The idea that we can return to hunter-gatherer societies (or abandon technology in general), is probably '''not''' sustainable, not green, and not viable for our global population of nearly 8 billion people. Here's some evidence why: # Hunter-gatherer societies existed when the global population was less than 1/10th of what it is today. # Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering. # Today, hunting &amp; fishing restrict...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2022-05-24T23:29:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;The idea that we can return to hunter-gatherer societies (or abandon technology in general), is probably &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;not&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; sustainable, not green, and not viable for our global population of nearly 8 billion people. Here&amp;#039;s some evidence why: # Hunter-gatherer societies existed when the global population was less than 1/10th of what it is today. # Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering. # Today, hunting &amp;amp; fishing restrict...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The idea that we can return to hunter-gatherer societies (or abandon technology in general), is probably '''not''' sustainable, not green, and not viable for our global population of nearly 8 billion people. Here's some evidence why:&lt;br /&gt;
# Hunter-gatherer societies existed when the global population was less than 1/10th of what it is today.&lt;br /&gt;
# Agriculture was invented because it was more productive (per unit of land) than hunting/gathering.&lt;br /&gt;
# Today, hunting &amp;amp; fishing restrictions are needed to prevent animal extinctions from over-hunting and over-fishing.&lt;br /&gt;
# Indiginous people {{x|or more specifically, people who get most of their food from hunting, foraging and fishing}} are less than 5% of the global population.&lt;br /&gt;
All of this points to one likely truth: It takes too much land to feed a person via hunting, fishing and/or foraging. Agriculture {{x|which doesn't have to be monoculture}} is the only way to feed {{x|generate enough food for}} today's global population.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Got evidence to the contrary? Join the {{talk}}.''&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Food]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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