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		<title>Elie: Elie moved page Scale up wind power to Archive:000/Scale up wind power without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor</title>
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		<updated>2024-10-26T20:30:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elie moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Scale_up_wind_power&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Scale up wind power (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Scale up wind power&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Archive:000/Scale_up_wind_power&quot; title=&quot;Archive:000/Scale up wind power&quot;&gt;Archive:000/Scale up wind power&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect: Huge_refactor&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:30, 26 October 2024&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Elie</name></author>
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		<title>Elie at 10:33, 19 February 2024</title>
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		<updated>2024-02-19T10:33:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 06:33, 19 February 2024&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can [[wind power]] be scaled up enough to [[decarbonize energy]] production? '''Yes''', with limitations:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can [[wind power]] be scaled up enough to [[decarbonize energy]] production?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Yes''', with limitations:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Elie: /* Limitations */</title>
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		<updated>2024-02-19T10:30:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Limitations&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Limitations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Limitations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Wind power]] is highly intermittent, so much so that [[energy storage per watt of wind vs solar|batteries wouldn't be enough]]. {{p2|Surplus|i.e. during any moments when the generated electricity exceeds the local immediate demand}} wind power would mostly be [[energy storage|stored]] by producing '''[[hydrogen gas]]''', which would later be used for '''thermal''' energy mostly:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Wind power]] is highly intermittent, so much so that [[energy storage per watt of wind vs solar|batteries wouldn't be enough]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{p2|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[see why]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;|Non-&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;thermal &lt;/del&gt;uses of hydrogen gas are less scalable; i.e. hydrogen [[fuel cell vehicles]] would need &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[hydrogen gas#platinum-group metals|&lt;/del&gt;far too many platinum-group metals&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/del&gt;(&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;compared to &lt;/del&gt;hydrogen ''production''&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;)&lt;/del&gt;.}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{p2|Surplus|i.e. during any moments when the generated electricity exceeds the local immediate demand}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;burned &lt;/del&gt;for [[heating]] homes&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;wind power would mostly be [[energy storage|stored]] by producing '''[[hydrogen gas]]''', which would later be used for '''thermal''' energy &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(combustion) &lt;/ins&gt;mostly:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;burned &lt;/del&gt;for cooking food (gas stoves)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{p2|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[see why]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;|Non-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;combustion &lt;/ins&gt;uses of hydrogen gas &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;energy &lt;/ins&gt;are less scalable; i.e. hydrogen [[fuel cell vehicles]] would need far too many platinum-group metals (&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;PGMs). It's true that &lt;/ins&gt;hydrogen ''production'' &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;also needs PGMs, but [[Hydrogen gas#Platinum-group metals|nowhere near as much of them]]&lt;/ins&gt;.}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* used in [[vehicles|&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hydrogen combustion &lt;/del&gt;vehicles]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;used &lt;/ins&gt;for [[heating]] homes&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* used in place of [[coal]] &amp;amp; [[natural gas|gas]] in most industries&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;used &lt;/ins&gt;for cooking food (gas stoves)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* used in [[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hydrogen combustion &lt;/ins&gt;vehicles|vehicles]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* used in place of [[coal]] &amp;amp; [[natural gas|gas]] &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;combustion &lt;/ins&gt;in most &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;manufacturing &lt;/ins&gt;industries&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''[[scale up solar power|Solar]] and/or [[scale up nuclear power|nuclear]] would still be needed''' for electricity whenever the wind isn't blowing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''[[scale up solar power|Solar]] and/or [[scale up nuclear power|nuclear]] would still be needed''' for electricity whenever the wind isn't blowing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;Can wind power be scaled up enough to decarbonize energy production? '''Yes''', with limitations:  ==Limitations== Wind power is highly intermittent, so much so that batteries wouldn't be enough. {{p2|Surplus|i.e. during any moments when the generated electricity exceeds the local immediate demand}} wind power would mostly be stored by producing '''hydrogen gas''', which would later be used f...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2024-02-19T10:16:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Can &lt;a href=&quot;/Wind_power&quot; title=&quot;Wind power&quot;&gt;wind power&lt;/a&gt; be scaled up enough to &lt;a href=&quot;/Decarbonize_energy&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Decarbonize energy&quot;&gt;decarbonize energy&lt;/a&gt; production? &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Yes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, with limitations:  ==Limitations== &lt;a href=&quot;/Wind_power&quot; title=&quot;Wind power&quot;&gt;Wind power&lt;/a&gt; is highly intermittent, so much so that &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Energy_storage_per_watt_of_wind_vs_solar&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Energy storage per watt of wind vs solar (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;batteries wouldn&amp;#039;t be enough&lt;/a&gt;. {{p2|Surplus|i.e. during any moments when the generated electricity exceeds the local immediate demand}} wind power would mostly be &lt;a href=&quot;/Energy_storage&quot; title=&quot;Energy storage&quot;&gt;stored&lt;/a&gt; by producing &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Hydrogen_gas&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Hydrogen gas (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;hydrogen gas&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, which would later be used f...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can [[wind power]] be scaled up enough to [[decarbonize energy]] production? '''Yes''', with limitations:&lt;br /&gt;
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==Limitations==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Wind power]] is highly intermittent, so much so that [[energy storage per watt of wind vs solar|batteries wouldn't be enough]]. {{p2|Surplus|i.e. during any moments when the generated electricity exceeds the local immediate demand}} wind power would mostly be [[energy storage|stored]] by producing '''[[hydrogen gas]]''', which would later be used for '''thermal''' energy mostly:&lt;br /&gt;
{{p2|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[see why]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;|Non-thermal uses of hydrogen gas are less scalable; i.e. hydrogen [[fuel cell vehicles]] would need [[hydrogen gas#platinum-group metals|far too many platinum-group metals]] (compared to hydrogen ''production'').}}&lt;br /&gt;
* burned for [[heating]] homes&lt;br /&gt;
* burned for cooking food (gas stoves)&lt;br /&gt;
* used in [[vehicles|hydrogen combustion vehicles]]&lt;br /&gt;
* used in place of [[coal]] &amp;amp; [[natural gas|gas]] in most industries&lt;br /&gt;
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'''[[scale up solar power|Solar]] and/or [[scale up nuclear power|nuclear]] would still be needed''' for electricity whenever the wind isn't blowing.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elie</name></author>
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