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	* Frequent stops could also improve [[labor]] conditions. Truckers currently have to drive for 16 hours at a time sometimes - the prolonged sitting is bad for long-term health. However, truck stops would have to be designed to be more enjoyable if truckers are going to have to wait there more often.		* Frequent stops could also improve [[labor]] conditions. Truckers currently have to drive for 16 hours at a time sometimes - the prolonged sitting is bad for long-term health. However, truck stops would have to be designed to be more enjoyable if truckers are going to have to wait there more often.

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			Semi trucks run on diesel fuel, which is [[oil refining\|(in some sense)]] a by-product of gasoline production. If cars are made electric but semi trucks are not, there won't be much diesel available for the trucks; diesel would become the main product, gasoline would become a byproduct; gas prices would drop while diesel prices would soar; there would be growing stockpiles of gasoline in industrial storage facilities; if some industry finds some way to make use of this cheap gasoline, then we failed to reduce CO2 emissions; or if all that gasoline isn't used, then where will it all be stored?
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	==See also==		==See also==
	* [[Electric vehicles]]		* [[Electric vehicles]]

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	* Would the charging stations on the highway be in locations suited for [[wind]] and/or [[solar]]?		* Would the charging stations on the highway be in locations suited for [[wind]] and/or [[solar]]?
	* Frequent stops could also improve [[labor]] conditions. Truckers currently have to drive for 16 hours at a time sometimes - the prolonged sitting is bad for long-term health. However, truck stops would have to be designed to be more enjoyable if truckers are going to have to wait there more often.		* Frequent stops could also improve [[labor]] conditions. Truckers currently have to drive for 16 hours at a time sometimes - the prolonged sitting is bad for long-term health. However, truck stops would have to be designed to be more enjoyable if truckers are going to have to wait there more often.


			==See also==
			* [[Electric vehicles]]

Elie: Created page with "Semi trucks, also known as freight trucks, transport goods that people consume. Unlike cars, semi trucks are harder to electrify, because: * more energy needs to be stored, for longer-range trips * more peak power is needed The few existing solutions on the market today rely on lithium-ion batteries which contain way too much cobalt to scale up. ==Candidates== ''This page needs more research before it can reach a decent conclusion.'' {{minor|Note: We probably do..."

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Created page with "Semi trucks, also known as freight trucks, transport goods that people consume. Unlike cars, semi trucks are harder to electrify, because: * more energy needs to be stored, for longer-range trips * more peak power is needed The few existing solutions on the market today rely on lithium-ion batteries which contain way too much cobalt to scale up. ==Candidates== ''This page needs more research before it can reach a decent conclusion.'' {{minor|Note: We probably do..."

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Semi trucks, also known as freight trucks, transport goods that people consume.

Unlike cars, semi trucks are harder to electrify, because:
* more energy needs to be stored, for longer-range trips
* more peak power is needed

The few existing solutions on the market today rely on [[lithium-ion batteries]] which contain way too much cobalt to scale up.

==Candidates==
''This page needs more research before it can reach a decent conclusion.''

{{minor|Note: We probably don't have time to wait for huge technological breakthroughs that could take decades or not come at all.}}
Here's what could be done with '''existing''' technologies:
===Hydrogen fuel cells===
{{sum|Unknown viability}}
Fuel cells need platinum-group metals (PGMs). The amount is proportional to the ''peak power'' of the vehicle. Considering how much peak power a truck needs to have, how much PGMs would be needed to make them all fuel-cell based? Would it be within the limits of global mineral reserves? {{qn}}

{{minor|At least compressed hydrogen gas is probably ok in terms of [[fuel cell vehicles#range|energy density]].}}
===Sodium-ion batteries===
{{sum|Unknown viability}}
Sodium-ion batteries have less energy density than lithium-ion. Would there still be enough energy stored?

Suppose it's ok for trucks to make more stops for charging:
* In how many cases would perishable goods be [[food waste|affected]]?
** {{minor|If a lot, then: Hot take: If we want to get off of fossil fuels, we have to make our diets more nonperishable{{x|aside from ultra-local foods, or maybe not even}}. Healthy diets are still [[Term:viable|viable]] with a [[multivitamin]].}}
* Would the charging stations on the highway be in locations suited for [[wind]] and/or [[solar]]?
* Frequent stops could also improve [[labor]] conditions. Truckers currently have to drive for 16 hours at a time sometimes - the prolonged sitting is bad for long-term health. However, truck stops would have to be designed to be more enjoyable if truckers are going to have to wait there more often.