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		<title>Elie: Created page with &quot;Category:Problems __NOTOC__ File:Emissions-by-sector-–-pie-charts.png|thumb|GHGs (greenhouse gases, such as '''CO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;''') are the gases that cause climate change. '''This is a pie chart of where they come from.'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that a large chunk of emissions are a function of how much new '''&quot;stuff&quot; people buy''': ''See sub-sections of the pie, related to: industry (producing materials, manufacturing), agriculture, and transporting goods.'' {{tal...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Category:Problems&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Category:Problems (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Category:Problems&lt;/a&gt; __NOTOC__ File:Emissions-by-sector-–-pie-charts.png|thumb|GHGs (greenhouse gases, such as &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;CO&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) are the gases that cause climate change. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is a pie chart of where they come from.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Note that a large chunk of emissions are a function of how much new &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;stuff&amp;quot; people buy&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;See sub-sections of the pie, related to: industry (producing materials, manufacturing), agriculture, and transporting goods.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; {{tal...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Problems]] __NOTOC__&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Emissions-by-sector-–-pie-charts.png|thumb|GHGs (greenhouse gases, such as '''CO&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;''') are the gases that cause climate change. '''This is a pie chart of where they come from.'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Note that a large chunk of emissions are a function of how much new '''&amp;quot;stuff&amp;quot; people buy''': ''See sub-sections of the pie, related to: industry (producing materials, manufacturing), agriculture, and transporting goods.'' {{talk|Also, &amp;quot;fugitive emissions from energy production&amp;quot; are directly a function of how much natural gas is used in all the other pieces of the pie.{{pbr}}In any case, maybe this pie chart isn't divided up in a relevant enough way to illustrate which emissions are driven by what. I'm thinking of making a [[:File:ghg-pie2.png|new one]] (using mostly the same data sources that the people who made this one used).{{pbr}}[[User:Elie|Elie]] ([[User talk:Elie|talk]]) 10:59, 7 February 2025 (EST)}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Other major factors include heating buildings and driving cars.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;See also: [[:File:energy-demand-pie1.png|This other pie chart]] that shows energy usage in more detail (but doesn't include non-energy emissions).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:carbon-inequality1.png|thumb|Note that half of emissions come from the richest 10% of the world. This ''includes'' '''most people''' who live in &amp;quot;first world&amp;quot; countries.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Climate change is ''mostly'' caused by &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF02&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''burning fossil fuels for energy'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; - and to a lesser extent, by today's agriculture.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;{{light|But note:}} Agriculture has [[deforestation|other major environmental impacts]] too, besides just climate change.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Solutions we ultimately need {{fists}}==&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[Decarbonize the energy supply|Replace ALL fossil fuel energy, with renewables and/or nuclear power]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Not technologically feasible, [[Decarbonize the energy supply|currently]].&lt;br /&gt;
*** Would become more feasible if the ''demand'' for energy (and vehicles) was [[reduce energy demand|'''lower''']]. This is quite viable, as long as people in {{t2|first-world|&amp;quot;first-world&amp;quot;, for lack of a better terminology&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Talk: &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;I didn't want to say &amp;quot;developed countries&amp;quot; here, because a less experienced person reading quickly might mistake it for &amp;quot;developing countries&amp;quot; (which is the ''opposite'' of what I'm trying to convey). I also didn't want to say &amp;quot;rich countries&amp;quot; because some people might mistakenly think their country isn't rich enough for it to apply to them. So I'm stuck using an old, somewhat improper term: &amp;quot;first-world countries&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;}} countries are willing to make some lifestyle changes:&lt;br /&gt;
**** '''[[We can still have nice things, just not replace them so often]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
**** '''[[Reduce the need for driving]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
* {{light|''Some'' lifestyle changes are still needed ''even if'' we phase out fossil fuels:}}&lt;br /&gt;
** '''[[Stop food waste]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
** '''[[Make the food supply more plant-based]]''' {{light|(does not ''require'' 100% veganism)}}&lt;br /&gt;
** {{rb|These are needed to prevent [[deforestation]]. ''[[Reduce the amount of land required to feed the world|See why]]''.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Got questions? FAQ pages are coming soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- OLD:&lt;br /&gt;
==Base knowledge==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{minor|''Note: Some of these pages might not be written yet:''}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[What is climate change]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Why climate change is a problem]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Why climate change is anthropogenic]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Decarbonize the energy supply]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural norms that lead to unsustainable living]] - and how to fix them&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carbon footprint and wealth inequality|FAQ - &amp;quot;Why should we reduce our carbon footprint when it's rich corporations' fault?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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OLD TALK:&lt;br /&gt;
 I only added the &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot; because I wanted the page to end on a link to something solution-related. But it's redundant (already have the same link earlier) and it's not a great next-step for a general audience to read (page gets technical).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 Maybe i should refactor the page:&lt;br /&gt;
 - Make &amp;quot;Solutions we ultimately need&amp;quot; the ONLY true section.&lt;br /&gt;
 - Make &amp;quot;ongoing discussions&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;base knowledge&amp;quot; become '''side panels'''. &lt;br /&gt;
 - Don't have a &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 - Have the FAQ on some other page?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Elie</name></author>
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