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		<title>Elie at 18:14, 28 March 2025</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 14:14, 28 March 2025&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot;&gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* debunk estrogen myth {{x|rationalwiki said it well once: &amp;quot;Some high-IQ folk have decided that, because soy contains somewhat similar compounds to estrogen, soy is making you gay (or girly, even worse). The science doesn't bear this out. [https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/2/e894/6382260?login=false]&amp;quot;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* debunk estrogen myth {{x|rationalwiki said it well once: &amp;quot;Some high-IQ folk have decided that, because soy contains somewhat similar compounds to estrogen, soy is making you gay (or girly, even worse). The science doesn't bear this out. [https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/2/e894/6382260?login=false]&amp;quot;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* it takes more soy to make meat than to make tofu (as far as i know. {{x|i don't have the exact numbers. One thing I know for sure is that meat takes more crops overall, per unit of protein - and yes grass-fed beef is an exception but it's in [[How much protein could ruminants produce without crops?|very limited supply]], unavoidably so}})&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* it takes more soy to make meat than to make tofu (as far as i know. {{x|i don't have the exact numbers. One thing I know for sure is that meat takes more crops overall, per unit of protein - and yes grass-fed beef is an exception but it's in [[How much protein could ruminants produce without crops?|very limited supply]], unavoidably so}})&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* rainforest concerns? btw it doesn't have to be grown there&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* address concerns about gmo&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* address concerns about gmo&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot; section: [[canola]], [[wheat]], [[corn]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot; section: [[canola]], [[wheat]], [[corn]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Elie|Elie]] ([[User talk:Elie|talk]]) 13:22, 28 March 2025 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Elie|Elie]] ([[User talk:Elie|talk]]) 13:22, 28 March 2025 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Elie</name></author>
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		<title>Elie at 17:35, 28 March 2025</title>
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		<updated>2025-03-28T17:35:50Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* how to cook soybeans from scratch, make soymilk but better{{x|call it &amp;quot;unfiltered soymilk&amp;quot;? anyway, the concentrated version is good as a custard or filling or ingredient in dough (or if not sweetened, can be added to soups); the diluted version can be good as a drink to go with a meal. Kind of tastes like cereal}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* how to cook soybeans from scratch, make soymilk but better{{x|call it &amp;quot;unfiltered soymilk&amp;quot;? anyway, the concentrated version is good as a custard or filling or ingredient in dough (or if not sweetened, can be added to soups); the diluted version can be good as a drink to go with a meal. Kind of tastes like cereal}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* debunk estrogen myth {{x|rationalwiki said it well once: &amp;quot;Some high-IQ folk have decided that, because soy contains somewhat similar compounds to estrogen, soy is making you gay (or girly, even worse). The science doesn't bear this out. [https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/2/e894/6382260?login=false]&amp;quot;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* debunk estrogen myth {{x|rationalwiki said it well once: &amp;quot;Some high-IQ folk have decided that, because soy contains somewhat similar compounds to estrogen, soy is making you gay (or girly, even worse). The science doesn't bear this out. [https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/2/e894/6382260?login=false]&amp;quot;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* it takes more soy to make meat than to make tofu (as far as i know. {{x|i don't have the exact numbers. One thing I know for sure is that meat takes more crops overall, per unit of protein - and yes grass-fed beef is an exception but it's in [[How much protein could ruminants produce without crops?|very limited supply]], unavoidably so}})&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* address concerns about gmo&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* address concerns about gmo&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot; section: [[canola]], [[wheat]], [[corn]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot; section: [[canola]], [[wheat]], [[corn]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Elie|Elie]] ([[User talk:Elie|talk]]) 13:22, 28 March 2025 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Elie|Elie]] ([[User talk:Elie|talk]]) 13:22, 28 March 2025 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Elie</name></author>
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		<title>Elie: /* preliminary */ new section</title>
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		<updated>2025-03-28T17:22:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;preliminary: &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== preliminary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* diagram of products &amp;amp; byproducts {{x|i sort of have one half-made on my computer right now}}&lt;br /&gt;
* which of those are high in nutrients vs not so much&lt;br /&gt;
* how to cook soybeans from scratch, make soymilk but better{{x|call it &amp;quot;unfiltered soymilk&amp;quot;? anyway, the concentrated version is good as a custard or filling or ingredient in dough (or if not sweetened, can be added to soups); the diluted version can be good as a drink to go with a meal. Kind of tastes like cereal}}&lt;br /&gt;
* debunk estrogen myth {{x|rationalwiki said it well once: &amp;quot;Some high-IQ folk have decided that, because soy contains somewhat similar compounds to estrogen, soy is making you gay (or girly, even worse). The science doesn't bear this out. [https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/2/e894/6382260?login=false]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
* address concerns about gmo&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;see also&amp;quot; section: [[canola]], [[wheat]], [[corn]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Elie|Elie]] ([[User talk:Elie|talk]]) 13:22, 28 March 2025 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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