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For simplicity sake | For simplicity sake{{x|and due to lack of data}}, we just have to assume (for now) that any tech that stays within ''mineral'' limits{{x|as talked about above}} won't need an outrageous amount of energy or labor to produce. Manufacturing & recycling probably doesn't vary quite as much as mining does{{x|the energy & labor of mining depends heavily on which mineral is being mined, how rare it is}}. | ||
Ultimately we do need to assess the [[EROI of energy storage]]. | |||
Revision as of 23:36, 27 March 2023
So we need a lot of batteries for energy storage. It has to be done in a way that...
- doesn't require too many rare minerals
- doesn't require too much energy to produce and later recycle
(...)( This implies an additional requirement: Recyclability ) - doesn't require too much labor
These doesn't need to be a "one size fits all" solution. Clearly different battery tech is good for different applications. But as a simple viability test, we need to imagine what would happen if the battery tech was scaled up to meet most of the would-be demand for energy storage in a green-energy solution.
Scale used: The amount of energy storage that would be needed if all vehicles were electric. See whyIt's a compromise between two considerations:
- We're going to need more than just vehicle batteries if solar and wind are main power sources; we'd also need on-grid energy storage. But,
- Battery tech won't be one-size-fits-all; it's possible there's a mix of battery tech (each with different mineral profiles) that could together meet 100% of all potential demand (full green energy scenario), even when no individual battery tech (within the mix) could meet the 100% on its own (limited by mineral reserves)..
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For each mineral, divide its global reserves by the energy storage amount above. This gives you a reasonable limit (in grams per kWh).
Energy and labor
For simplicity sake
This page is incomplete - it needs calculations and data.