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===Land===
For one, there's the land that the house sits on: Quick estimate:
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|house.lot_size
|7200 square(feet)
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|https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-size-of-a-lot-in-suburbia-If-you-dont-know-the-average-what-is-the-size-of-a-lot-where-you-lived-or-live-in-a-suburban-setting
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|house.size
|2600 square(feet)
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|<cite>How Many Trees Does It Take to Build a House?</cite>https://www.thehousedesigners.com/articles/how-many-trees-does-it-take-to-build-a-house.asp#:~:text=House%20Construction&text=To%20keep%20it%20simple%20and,a%202%2C000%20square%20foot%20home.<br /><q>According to the Census Bureau, the average American home built in 2013 was 2,600 square feet"</q>
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But also the land that it takes to grow the wood for the house:
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|boardfoot
|(1/12) cubic(foot)
|Weird unit but ok.
|<cite>How Many Trees Does It Take to Build a House?</cite>https://www.thehousedesigners.com/articles/how-many-trees-does-it-take-to-build-a-house.asp#:~:text=House%20Construction&text=To%20keep%20it%20simple%20and,a%202%2C000%20square%20foot%20home.<br /><q>there are 12 board feet in every cubic foot</q>
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|16380 boardfoot
|Amount of wood in a typical house
|<cite>How Many Trees Does It Take to Build a House?</cite>https://www.thehousedesigners.com/articles/how-many-trees-does-it-take-to-build-a-house.asp#:~:text=House%20Construction&text=To%20keep%20it%20simple%20and,a%202%2C000%20square%20foot%20home.<br /><q>According to the Census Bureau, the average American home built in 2013 was 2,600 square feet, '''and it would have required 16,380 board feet to build!'''</q>
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|wood.density
|0.8 g/cm^3
|For converting between wood mass and wood volume
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|tree_farm.productivity
|20 tons/hectare/year
|Wood yield of a typical "tree farm" forest
|<cite>Agroforestry Carbon Sequestration</cite>https://www.sustainably.run/co2-verification<br /><q>tree plantations of pine and eucalyptus can sequester an average of 10 tons of carbon per hectare per year.</q><br /><br />Assuming that 50% of the mass of wood is carbon atoms, this means 20 tons of wood per hectare per year.
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|house.wood_volume * wood.density / house.lifespan / tree_farm.productivity
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Note: this last answer is ''wrong'' because we don't actually have the numbers yet!
If you have some idea how to estimate the land footprint of other materials, please start the {{talk}}. For now, let's hopefully assume it's small enough to ignore.

Revision as of 21:58, 16 October 2022

How many resources does it take for people to have housing?

This is a page for some estimates.

Single-detached home

Labor

We could estimate labor by looking at some costs:

  • labor costs, obviously
  • material costs, because these generally reflect the labor that goes into producing the materials

We don't want to count other costs:

  • zoning permits and other bureaucracy - maybe these exist in our current society but they don't have to exist fundamentally - there are probably much more efficient & fair ways to make decisions about housing (or at least, the process could do without bullshit jobs) - so we leave this out.
  • land value - this depends on the location and it isn't a reflection of labor requirements. Also we will calculate land in another section anyway. So here we leave this out too.

Housing costs have gone up recently, but this is more a function of demand rather than any inherent increase in the amount of labor needed to build a house.


Quick estimate: How many labor hours go into a house:

house.typical_price_before_covid
400000 $
typical_wages_before_covid
18 $/hour
Average wage of workers in construction, materials production, and other relevant trades
what_fraction_of_costs_reflect_labor
70%
The percentage of costs that fit into the categories we care about (mentioned above)

house.typical_price_before_covid * what_fraction_of_costs_reflect_labor / typical_wages_before_covid hours house.rq_labor (calculation loading)

How about labor over time:

family.size
4 people
house.lifespan
80 years

house.rq_labor / house.lifespan / family.size hours/week per capita (calculation loading)

Shockingly low. Did I get something wrong?



Land

For one, there's the land that the house sits on: Quick estimate:

house.size
2600 square(feet)

house.lot_size (calculation loading)

But also the land that it takes to grow the wood for the house:

boardfoot
(1/12) cubic(foot)
Weird unit but ok.
house.wood_volume
16380 boardfoot
Amount of wood in a typical house
wood.density
0.8 g/cm^3
For converting between wood mass and wood volume
tree_farm.productivity
20 tons/hectare/year
Wood yield of a typical "tree farm" forest
Agroforestry Carbon Sequestrationhttps://www.sustainably.run/co2-verification
tree plantations of pine and eucalyptus can sequester an average of 10 tons of carbon per hectare per year.

Assuming that 50% of the mass of wood is carbon atoms, this means 20 tons of wood per hectare per year.

house.wood_volume * wood.density / house.lifespan / tree_farm.productivity (calculation loading) Note: this last answer is wrong because we don't actually have the numbers yet!

If you have some idea how to estimate the land footprint of other materials, please start the . For now, let's hopefully assume it's small enough to ignore.