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==Fishing==
==Fishing==
Wild-caught fish could provide 5 or 6 grams/day of protein per capita globally, if none of it was wasted.
Wild-caught fish could provide 5 or 6 grams/day of protein per capita globally, if none of it was wasted.
 
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|<nowiki>93 million tonnes/year</nowiki>
|<nowiki>93 million tonnes/year</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Global production of wild-caught fish and other seafood (not farmed)</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Global production of wild-caught fish and other seafood (not farmed)</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Using most recent data available.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
|<nowiki>Includes bones.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Using most recent data available.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Fishing grew a lot from 1960 to 1990 but (unlike fish farming) has not increased since 1995. This suggests that we've reached the ecological limit.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Fishing grew a lot from 1960 to 1990 but (unlike fish farming) has not increased since 1995. This suggests that we've reached the ecological limit.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
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The sustainable level of consumption might be a bit less than this, because [[overfishing]] is still an issue.
The sustainable level of consumption might be a bit less than this, because [[overfishing]] is still an issue.


The rest of fish is farmed, which, as mentioned earlier, is a net loss of protein. Farmed fish are fed food crops that humans could otherwise eat.
The rest of fish is farmed, which, as mentioned earlier, is a net loss of protein. Farmed fish are fed food crops that humans could otherwise eat.

Revision as of 02:12, 14 March 2023


Farming

  • Vegans rightly point out that meat-containing diets require more land (and thus more deforestation). Feeding animals crops is a net loss of protein and calories. But...
  • Pro-meat folks rightly point out that some land is only suited for grazing animals. And unlike humans, cows can live on eating grass.

This raises a more important question:


If farm animals only ever ate...
  • grasses and other plants from pasture & range , and
  • the parts of food crops that humans can't eat ,
and never...
  • human-edible food crops , nor
  • crops grown specifically for animal feed ,
how much animal protein could be produced?


Clearly it's less than the status quo, as there are fewer sources of feed. But how much less?

Analysis in progress - someone is working on this research.
Results will be posted here soon ♥


Hunting

Hunter-gatherer lifestyles were sustainable in prehistoric times when the world population was less than 0.1 billion - today we are at 8.0 billion. Hunting might be a great survival tactic if you're lost in the woods. But it's not going to feed the world. There would be mass extinctions of wild animals if we tried.


Fishing

Wild-caught fish could provide 5 or 6 grams/day of protein per capita globally, if none of it was wasted.

seafood.production.wild
93 million tonnes/year
Global production of wild-caught fish and other seafood (not farmed)
Includes bones.
Using most recent data available.
Fishing grew a lot from 1960 to 1990 but (unlike fish farming) has not increased since 1995. This suggests that we've reached the ecological limit.

https://ourworldindata.org/fish-and-overfishing
fish.protein
18%
Protein content of fish (divided by total mass including bones)
world.population
8 billion
Number of people alive today, globally
https://www.unfpa.org/data/world-population-dashboard
Last updated in 2023

Grams of fish: seafood.production.wild (g/day per capita)(world.population) (calculation loading) Grams of protein: seafood.production.wild * fish.protein (g/day per capita)(world.population) (calculation loading)

The sustainable level of consumption might be a bit less than this, because overfishing is still an issue.

The rest of fish is farmed, which, as mentioned earlier, is a net loss of protein. Farmed fish are fed food crops that humans could otherwise eat.